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30
Mar
07

My Worst Night as a Standup Comic

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I have waited two weeks to tell this story, and now I’m ready. For the first time in my five years as a standup comic, I was booed off the stage.

The Setup

I’ve had some rough shows before. Every comedian has. I’ve gotten an audience that didn’t get me and just sat there, giving me the silent treatment. I’ve had the frat boys more interested in the NCAA finals on the bar’s flat screen than my jokes. One time I even had the tiniest audience (three people) just interrupt my set and tell me to talk about something else. That last show was one of my greatest ever, because in the end, I improvised some pretty funny stuff.

What happened to me two weeks ago was far worse.

I was participating in an audition for Bill Bellamy’s show, Who’s Got Jokes, which airs on TV One. I’ve never seen the show because I don’t get TV One from my cable company, but it sounded interesting. My boy, Corey Manning, told me about the auditions that were happening in New Jersey, but I was in Austin that week for the SXSW festival.

It turns out there were some audition slots at a club in Dallas at the same time. Coming off of my decent showing at the Bay Area Black Comedy Festival, I decided to do it. I rented a car in Austin and drove three and a half hours to Dallas to audition with three minutes of clean material. They made a point of stressing “clean material.” That’s all I have. (Update: by this, I mean all I have is clean material, NOT that I only have three minutes of clean material. Those who know me from my blog, shows, books and other writings are aware of this fact, but new people might not be.)

I should add that for the full week preceding the audition, I had barely spoken a word due to some intense problems with my voice. I thought it was worth breaking the vocal rest for three minutes for a chance to get my comedy on television. I was wrong.

Arrival

The club was called Hyena’s Comedy Club (turned out to be a perfect name), and it sits in Arlington, Texas between Dallas and Fort Worth, but since no one cares about Fort Worth, everybody just says the club is in Dallas.

We were told to arrive between 5:30 and 7:30pm to sign in. The show was set to start at 8:30. I think I got in around 6:30, signed in as comic number 24 and was handed a 16-page contract to read and sign.

The contract used big words like “indemnify” and gave new meaning to others (”parties” had nothing to do with a gathering of people for the purposes of fun and socializing). Basically, it said, “we own you and your soul, biatch,” but it spread out that message in paragraphs and subsections and lots of bulleted lists. I don’t even know what the point of all that was. Why have people read it? We couldn’t change a damn thing.

I signed away my rights and grabbed a bite at a vietnamese joint called “Pho 3.99.”

When I got back, they had all the comics line up for a quick videotaped interview and photo, and the show got started.

“Black Comedy”

For those outside the world of standup comedy, there is something called “black comedy.” That’s not when you happen to see a black person telling jokes on stage. “Black comedy” has come to be defined by a style and a look and a certain type of material. Just think BET’s Comic View. It’s generally very physical, often profane, and guarantees you exposure to material about certain inescapable topics:

  • how nasty black women’s feet are (I have no idea why this is such a common joke, but it is)
  • how broke black people are
  • something about the black church
  • downlow brothas and (falsely) how they are responsible for spreading AIDS to black women
  • sex, usually re-enacted on the stage
  • some anti-gay jokes
  • how black people and white people are different
  • and more on black women’s feet

I basically don’t talk about any of those things, not because they aren’t funny. They can be hella funny, but they are used a lot, and I don’t connect with the topics on a personal level. I just don’t care. I talk about what I know. I talk about politics, social issues, the news, Africans vs. African-Americans, surviving DC in the 1980s and 90, the Euro’s currency exchange versus the dollar. You know? Real hood shit.

Yet I wasn’t initially nervous about this. If anything, I could almost guarantee no other comic would come close to covering my jokes, and I’d done a set of my material in a Def Comedy Jam audition with an incredibly positive response. It was that audition which made me comfortable doing this one. That sense of security was as false as a hair weave.

The Law of Diminishing Audience Patience

What really separates “black comedy” from mainstream comedy is the impatience of the audience. They will rip you if you are not entertaining them within 10 seconds. (see: Amateur Night at the Apollo)

The audition had 36 comedians. Thirty six. I had signed in at 24, but somehow got bumped to 31. There is even less patience for the 31st comedian, and I had seen a few before me fall without finishing their sets.

I admired the hell out of this one brotha, Ethan Hardaway. I overheard him during his interview before the show. He’s only been doing comedy for about six months and has plans to go into a PhD program if this doesn’t work out. He’s also gay as hell, but managed to use that to his advantage even in the super anti-gay room.

After an earlier comic hated on gay people and talked about how everyone in the room has “that one gay cousin,” Ethan’s used his opening line to tag with something like, “I’m your gay cousin.” This shocked people awake and got good laughs despite the homophobia. and made them laugh.

He had some killer material about T-cell counts I can’t quite remember, but check his MySpace page if you get a moment. The boy is funny!

But back to my crappy show.

I think the problem started with the way the show was run overall. I’m not trying to make a lot of excuses, but I’ve done a bunch of auditions, and this one was missing a few things.

Usually they meet with all the comics to explain where, when and how to approach the stage. They’ll also let you know where the lights are to remind you that your time is almost up and then that your time is up. We didn’t get any of that, so there was a lot of confusion about when people should get off the stage. This was extra stressful because they claimed your judging points would be cut if you went over your time, and three minutes is a strange amount of time to keep track of.

What you’d have happen is a mix of signals. In general, there was a woman standing in the back with a flashlight, and she’d wave it or flicker it, but it was never clear if she meant, “you have 30 seconds” or “you’re over your time.” At other points the DJ would just scratch a record. Although it was meant as a time warning, it was interpreted by the audience as an ejection. A DJ scratch sounds like a mistake. It says, “you’re not funny. Get off the stage.” The audience picked up on all this.

More importantly, I think the host, Rodney Perry (who I first met at the Bay Area Black Comedy Fest and who is mad funny himself) made a pretty big error at the beginning of the show.

He announced to the audience that this was a professional audition with clean material and was being taped to send to judges in LA. He demanded respect for all the acts and said they wouldn’t tolerate heckling. But then he said this:

“If you hear something you don’t like, just say ‘Alriiiiiiiight.’”

He meant that people should say this when he, the host, returned to the stage after an act, but he did did not make this clear to the audience. More importantly, if you say to the audience that you expect them to respect the comics, why would you then give them a tool of disrespect. “Don’t heckle, but if you want to heckle, you can use this acceptable heckle.” That just didn’t make sense to me, and it gave the audience way too much freedom.

As the show progressed, I watched one section of dudes in the audience increasingly cut off comics with loud, synchronized yells of “ALLRIIIIIGHT” to the point where the comic couldn’t continue. When these dudes saw they had this power, they only abused it more. I remember one comic caving in: “Oh, is that my time then? Ok, goodnight.”

Rodney berated him, “Don’t you ever let somebody tell you when to get off stage if it’s not your time!”

Nice words, but what was the comic really supposed to do when he can’t be heard over jeers of “ALLLRIIIIIIGHT!!!!”

My Set

I had planned my set based on some feedback from the Bay Area Black Comedy thing. I took out any political stuff that didn’t have to do with black people. No jokes about Alberto Gonzales jacking the Constitution. Nothing about Dubya being gangsta. I would do:

my always-used, always working introduction of my name

(Update: here is a video clip of the joke actually working)

being from DC with a crackhead mayor: “When people find out I’m from DC they feel the need to remind me my mayor was a crackhead. I know that…. I SOLD it to him”

a somewhat new bit about being caught in the jetblue meltdown

a black history month joke about how when black people rob white people it’s not a crime but instead, “involuntary reparations”

a joke about scientists who found the gene that causes black folks to have high blood pressure. the name of the gene? white people

a joke about the federal government pushing crack cocaine into black neighborhoods

I barely got halfway through the material. Remember, I only had three minutes.

Rodney brings me up and even manages to say my name right. I start off asking people to give him a hand for hosting. The audience gives up nothing. I say, “fine, don’t applaud him” to some laughs, then I start off, “My full name is Baratunde Rafiq Thurston. Baratunde is an old Nigerian name–”

“Stop stop!” I hear from the crowd. It’s Rodney. He tells me I have to get off the stage. They need to change tapes.

Right in the middle of my opening joke, I get pulled off stage. Talk about a momentum killer. And remember what I told you about the impatience of black audiences. Even though it wasn’t my fault, I’m held accountable for that.

Rodney talks a bit while they change tapes and brings me back up.

I started off. “Don’t give up nothing for Rodney Perry who messed up my intro. And do give it up for the Allright Crew over there. I don’t want to hear from yall ever.” I figure it’s best to acknowledge these idiots from the top, and I get good laughs on this line. really.

However, I made the mistake of going back to the “my name” joke, The tape change effectively destroyed the joke, but remember, all this is being taped for judges to see later. They won’t know my set got hacked by a tape change, and I want them to see this opening joke that has served me so well.

I get to the “one with no nickname” and get laughs.

“Rafiq is an Arabic name which means, ‘really. no nickname.’” A few more laughs.

“Thurston. Thurston is an old British name that means–”

“The Third!!” some people in the audience yell out, inspired by Gilligan’s Island from approximately 200 years ago. Nice. I tell them this is my time and they can do their own jokes when they get three minutes (more laughs). The momentum of the joke, what little was left, is completely gone.

“property of massa thurston.”

“I can see some of yall didn’t expect that last one”

They were confused, saying “no” and “huh?”

“Well neither did we.” A few folks who managed to stay with me through that butchered joke actually got it. Most had bailed. And then it came.

“ALLLLRIIIIIGHT!!!” from the peanut gallery of fools who had been allowed to destroy so much of the show already.

It’s my first joke, and the bullies want me off stage. I will not leave (recalling Rodney’s admonition to the other comic), but nothing matters at this point. The audience is done with me. There is no chance for redemption. I go into my Jetblue joke about being stuck at JFK and clearly no one gives a damn. Frankly neither do I.

I don’t show it, but I’ve given up on this set, this audience and this audition. But I refuse to leave the stage. I still have about two minutes left.

I start into my black history joke about how when black people rob white people it’s not a crime. It’s involuntary reparations.

The punchline is overwhelmed by sounds of “ALLLLLRIIIIIIIIGHT!!” They are getting into it. People are enjoying this destructive force against my creativity.

This is probably the worst public humiliation of my life. Then the DJ joins the mob. The DJ starts scratching a record even though I’m maybe halfway through my time. Now I’m angry. I even call him out on it. The audience, I can understand, but the DJ is part of the staff and the audition. He’s supposed to be representing TV One and the “respect” Rodney talked about earlier. That’s unprofessional man.

Then the lady with the flashlight starts flashing me. With a minute left. Horrible.

The Post-Game Report

I’ve been heckled before.

I’ve had audiences not get me before.

But I’ve never been so structurally handicapped and rejected in the way I was that night. There was nothing fun about it. It was ugly. It was a mob. I was the witch, and why?

Because I dared to not talk about women’s ashy feet or how black people and white people brush their teeth differently?

The quickness with which the audience turned on me was devastating. It doesn’t make me want to quit comedy, but it makes me lose faith in that crowd. See, I know the loss is theirs. I left the show mad at everyone including myself. I broke my silence for this bullshit? I drove a total of seven hours for this? I missed a day at SXSW for this??

I looked back at the other acts of the evening, and so many followed the script: feet, gays, money or lack thereof, sex, feet. I strayed from that and paid a price as did others that night. I felt like people were mad at me for not talking about their feet!

After I performed at the Bay Area Black Comedy Fest, the producer, Tony Spires said my material was over a lot of people’s heads. Maybe that’s true, but it’s only because stereotypical “black comedy” has been holding their heads under water for so long with bullshit.

What does it say to a comedian who sees what happened to me? You better stick to the script? Standup comedy should not be about a script.

As a comic, I know I can’t appeal to everyone. Even the biggest names have their detractors. Plenty of people think Jerry Seinfeld is a talentless hack or that Chris Rock lacks intelligent material. I know both views are wrong, but knowing that doesn’t make it easy to deal with. No one wants to be rejected by their own people. It’s like being kicked out by your family.

And the family is dysfunctional. The family is often homophobic and misinformed. I heard one performer repeat the urban myth that black women have the highest AIDS rates because of black men on the downlow. This is not true, but it’s a convenient bogeyman. It just hurt to see that joke work so well because people believed the bad science behind it. They weren’t laughing out of a sense of irony. They were laughing out of a sense of ignorance.

It’s pretty good timing that on my way to the show I was listening to a hip hop artist from Oakland (Brutha Los) talk about the state of rap music. “Rap music is basically hair metal. It’s built on black death and is nihilistic at best. It’s a parody of itself. But rap music is not hip hop.”

I think those words prepared me to go through what I did. “Black comedy” is not black comedy. In other words, I too am black comedy, but the mass production of stereotypical images has led an audience to believe I don’t belong.

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    B,

    First of all, it takes real guts to post this, and major kudos to you.

    Second of all, I'm sorry you had to go through this. On the plus side, I promise you it will make you a better comic. You will have your revenge.

    Third, my gut call is that the tape change fucked you more than anything. Maybe 70/30 tape change/allright crew. I've seen it happen to so many acts...you hit stage, and something's wrong with the mike. Dead in the water. If you have 30, you can get them back. 3? You're a dead man walking.

    Now I'm just rambling because I'm hiding from my kids with a six pack of beer.
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    My friend,

    I read your blog with much interest. I'm a standup comic of European descent (Italian), and my wife is mixed race. I'm familiar with the "black audience blues" that many black performers have related to me in the past, and I'm glad that you wrote this entry...it puts a face on the problem.

    Keep doing what you're doing...you seem genuine and very funny. Don't sell out (I don't think you would) or cheapen yourself by stooping to the level of the rabble. The right people will get you, and maybe you can raise the expectations of others by sticking to your guns. Def Jam didn't poison the well for black comics in one day, so it's going to take more time to repair the damage.

    Peace,
    Ralph
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    thanks tim and ralph.

    tim, i think you're right about the tape change. 3 mins is nothing, and with a tape change it's less than nothing.
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    It is great that you wrote this editorial. What would be even greater if we could work together more to try to make the no-going black community about comedy clubs. There seems to be a lack of appreciation of the art of stand-up comedy from a large group of black people. It as if they immediately believe that if you're not this, then you're not funny. I've seen it with white southern crowds also, but blacks primarily, especially young blacks. It is just a true disconnect. May'be it is because of the oratorical skill of a large amount of black people (we are a spoken people primarily, even though the first book was found to be from Egypt). We must keep grinding to push the box that are people believe can't be opened. Thanks for posting and even more thnaks for reading this. Jank You Much. Based out of MEMPHIS.
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    That...really blows. I'm sorry you had to deal with that, with the equipment problem and everything else. You got good stuff to say, and you're amazing. In the grand scheme of all your talent, dedication, and brilliance, a bunch of bullies in North Texas don't mean shit. Trust me.
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    I feel your pain. I'm also a black comic and won't work the black clubs anymore.

    The black clubs have turned into combat comedy. The audiences have been trained not to come out with an attitude of, "Hey, let's have a good time tonight!"

    Instead it's and attitude of "This Motherf**ker better be funny!"

    You sound like you may be like me. I grew up middle class, my parents were married and both worked, we were never on welfare, didn't have roaches, my dad didn't beat me mom, etc, etc.. It's a shame that in some peoples eyes if you aren't doing 'ghetto' jokes then you aren't a black comic.
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    @erin. you would know about N. Texas huh, Ms. Plano?? thx.

    @Jank. no JANK you!

    @thequestionmarkguy. you've been doing this for a minute! love the tagline "ethnic humor without the racial stereotypes" perfect!

    i know a bunch of black folks who don't do black clubs anymore because of the combat feel. I know white comics who don't do ANY clubs anymore as a matter of fact. but back to the black...

    there are so many parallels between the stereotype of black comedy and the stereotype of hip hop. The stuff that's been made popular doesn't reflect the spectrum of black thought and experience, and often it's black folk who promote that.

    I must say, I had an opposite experience with my Def Jam audition, and that was a young, club-going type audience. The Bay Area Black comedy fest was cool too, and I saw people make "ghetto" material funny in some brand new ways. Keep a look out for Gina Yashere, yall!

    ok. I should go to bed. thanks everyone for your comments. Keep em coming.
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    Baratunde,

    It was indeed brave and inspiring of you to share that experience. We have all had them. Some of us have chosen not to share them in the light of day.

    While I didn't get booed at an "Urban" comedy show in Vegas, I clearly didn't fit in with the gay-bashing and blatant sexual fare that was taking place that night (it was basically young guys and me, one woman). So the audience was very cool as they were with a brother from Oakland who had some pretty smart, political stuff. They laughed at him on an OJ joke (but doesn't everybody).

    I think you're right. It's uphill from here and it should also make you respect your material, who you are and what you do even more. If the audience chooses not to come along for the ride so be it. As long as you remain true to yourself.

    Keep it correct, Mr. Thurston!
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    Dude.

    I completely understand. I posted a while back on my blog (http://elonjames.blogspot.com/2006/08/im-afraid...) about a situation like that. But the fact is I'm hearing more and more stories about black comics dealing with this meaning that theres change in the air. When theres enough comics that refuse to conform to what people consider "Black comedy" then it will eventually cease to exist.
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    Dude.

    I completely understand. I posted a while back on my blog (http://elonjames.blogspot.com/2006/08/im-afraid...) about a situation like that. But the fact is I'm hearing more and more stories about black comics dealing with this meaning that theres change in the air. When theres enough comics that refuse to conform to what people consider "Black comedy" then it will eventually cease to exist.
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    there are two kinds of audiences. those who want to be challenged and those who want to be confirmed. guess which one is bigger.

    i've died in front of black audiences. Go figure. they don't seem to want to hear jokes about iPods, Pasteurization, and Roman Emperors. I think the line where you said its like being kicked out by your family really spoke to me. Cuz I HATE the black audience. But I love black people. And that's who I want to enterain. I shouldn't say i HATE them. i should say i haven't been given a reason to LOVE them.

    Our existence, our need to change the perception of black comedy challenges this audience's idea of what it means to be black in the first place. A sort of "you think you're better than me?" resentment comes out. We're not what they know so they are angered by us. They choose to hold on to what they know instead of see it evolve.

    however, this has happened to me. I'll die in front of an all black audience, but then take 5 or 6 people out of that crowd, put them in a more integrated comedy experience (Black, white, latin, asian, straight, gay) and those SAME PEOPLE come up to me after the show and say "thank the LORD you are doing something different!"

    right now, to me, the comedy scene in this country is a gigantic city built atop shallow ground. i think its about to cave in on itself. who will survive? tune in next week - same BAT time, same BAT channel

    Just like the stand up = sitcom paradigm is dead (hence the industry note "do autobiographical material" so that way your act lends itself to a TV show), the definition of black comedy is dying. holding on by a thread. That's what it means when Elon says he keeps hearing stories like this from black comedians. We're growing in number. We just have to buckle in tighter.
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    Tunde - thanks for being honest about this - as a presenter, I know that's not easy.

    Mad respect...keep going strong - I'm waiting for you to blow it up Jon Stewart stye - and i do believe that your talent will not be kept down...keep fighting.
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    I am African-American and have been doing stand-up locally in Orlando for several years. Just like you I've decided to stay away from "that" type of comedy. I try and talk about non-stereotypical and non-hack topics that appeal to me and topics that are mostly unique to me, although in this day and age it's hard to be 100% original. I normally do open-mic's at the imrov in Orlando on what is called "college night". Comedians from all different ethnic groups perform. I had been approached for several weeks by the manager who had been trying to get me to perform on another night which is called "apollo night". I said no because I knew the audience wouldn't appreciate me. I eventually gave in and did it. And just as I had suspected, the material that brought me lots of laughs on "college night" brought me stares of bewilderment from the "apollo night" crowd. I felt sad for my people because I felt they did not want to think, they only wanted to be insulted. I know that there are African-Americans out there who appreciate my material, I see them on "college night". I have learned to listen to myself and to not compromise. After reading your blog I feel much better about what I am doing and the path that I'm on. Good luck in the future.
 

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